tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573533210099052368.post7510319399244737926..comments2024-03-16T00:26:41.051-04:00Comments on Scaramouche: BMF is NOT Amusedscaramouchehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04380374512378209528noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573533210099052368.post-81398618578242792702010-03-16T17:25:21.620-04:002010-03-16T17:25:21.620-04:00To be clear, you have just thrown up another straw...To be clear, you have just thrown up another straw man.<br /><br />1) Libel and slander are laws which apply to -individuals-. Not groups, not racesl, not religions. You cannot libel or slander Judaism, you can only slander a living human.<br /><br />2) Libel and slander laws have never been used, to my knowledge, as leverage to commit genocide. The same cannot be said of "hate speech" and other censorship laws.<br /><br />I'd be perfectly fine with repealing libel and slander laws as long as the ban on dueling was repealed as well. I don't need Big Brother to do what I can do myself.The Phantomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10159748429049446398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573533210099052368.post-36813767578840382572010-03-16T16:15:39.383-04:002010-03-16T16:15:39.383-04:00Really Phantom...so you are ok with libel and slan...Really Phantom...so you are ok with libel and slander laws being eliminated as you would be if someone urged others to murder Jews? Just want to be clear is all.Yarivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152624462160142819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573533210099052368.post-69143175164570050952010-03-16T11:01:53.575-04:002010-03-16T11:01:53.575-04:00Same old straw man, "advocating atrocity is b...Same old straw man, "advocating atrocity is beyond the pale".<br /><br />Not the issue! The issue, which Bernie seems incapable of grasping, is that giving government, ANY government, the power to control what people say is a bad, bad, bad idea. Because every genocide in history has been committed by a government, and every time the genocide was preceded by the power to censor speech. Oh, and gun control too. Bernie's all about the gun control as well, I recall.<br /><br />Sadly, I don't think Bernie's failure is due to lack of smarts. He'd pretty much have to be doing it on purpose, at this point.The Phantomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10159748429049446398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573533210099052368.post-44083032734460508072010-03-16T10:46:51.660-04:002010-03-16T10:46:51.660-04:00There remains a big difference between advocating ...There remains a big difference between advocating hatred and calling for the mass murder of all Jews don't you think?Yarivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152624462160142819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573533210099052368.post-81506351753312029542010-03-16T08:55:01.830-04:002010-03-16T08:55:01.830-04:00If it's "beyond the pale," why, then...If it's "beyond the pale," why, then, do authorities refuse to do anything about the hate speech on view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHgEjyaXwho&feature=related<br /><br />That's kind of my point. There's a huge double standard which allows for, say, Muslim Jew-haters to say things that are "beyond the pale"00with few or now consequences--while the same kind of comments would get you in hot water if you happen to be, say, a First Nations leader. Who, Yariv, are we really fooling by claiming censorship is the way to go, the measure that will "protect" us from haters? Only ourselves, I fear.scaramouchehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04380374512378209528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573533210099052368.post-62473483445954389132010-03-16T08:38:13.721-04:002010-03-16T08:38:13.721-04:00As I read this letter Farber says and I would argu...As I read this letter Farber says and I would argue 99.99% of decent human beings would agree that calling for the genocide of an entire people goes quite beyond the pale. <br /><br />If you feel its OK to advocate mass murder well....Yarivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152624462160142819noreply@blogger.com